Comments on: ODBMS where did they go? http://www.odbms.org/blog/2007/09/odbms-where-did-they-go_20/ Trends and Information on Big Data, New Data Management Technologies, and Innovation. Wed, 17 Apr 2013 21:47:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Meridian http://www.odbms.org/blog/2007/09/odbms-where-did-they-go_20/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Meridian Thu, 22 May 2008 14:25:40 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/odbmsblog/2007/09/20/odbms-where-did-they-go/#comment-87 In your 9/26/2007, you said you were going to write a white paper for December that year. Have you done it? If so, how can I get hold of it?<br /><br />Thank you in advance. In your 9/26/2007, you said you were going to write a white paper for December that year. Have you done it? If so, how can I get hold of it?

Thank you in advance.

]]> By: Pieter van Zyl http://www.odbms.org/blog/2007/09/odbms-where-did-they-go_20/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Pieter van Zyl Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:44:11 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/odbmsblog/2007/09/20/odbms-where-did-they-go/#comment-88 "ODBMS where did they go?"<br /><br />They went commercial......<br /><br />I think odbms's went from research db's to commercial db's to fast. They went for the money as they thought everyone would drop relational db's.<br /><br /><br />That is why I like open source object databases. I think they give new and student users time to play with an odbms and understand it better. Like MySql and Postgresql.<br /><br /><br />And odbm's are not taught at enough universities.....well not in SA.......<br /><br />And there are more architects that don't know what an object database is..... “ODBMS where did they go?”

They went commercial……

I think odbms’s went from research db’s to commercial db’s to fast. They went for the money as they thought everyone would drop relational db’s.

That is why I like open source object databases. I think they give new and student users time to play with an odbms and understand it better. Like MySql and Postgresql.

And odbm’s are not taught at enough universities…..well not in SA…….

And there are more architects that don’t know what an object database is…..

]]> By: Roberto V. Zicari http://www.odbms.org/blog/2007/09/odbms-where-did-they-go_20/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Roberto V. Zicari Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:29:49 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/odbmsblog/2007/09/20/odbms-where-did-they-go/#comment-89 1) What I mean is that Relational Database Systems were not replaced by first generation ODBMSs and they will not be replaced by the next generation of ODBMSs either.<br />They have adjusted though...<br /><br />2) Matching Programming Languages and Databases has always be a difficult task. <br />It is still is. <br />Now the "Impedence mismatch" is more than ever a real problem felt by the market. 1) What I mean is that Relational Database Systems were not replaced by first generation ODBMSs and they will not be replaced by the next generation of ODBMSs either.
They have adjusted though…

2) Matching Programming Languages and Databases has always be a difficult task.
It is still is.
Now the “Impedence mismatch” is more than ever a real problem felt by the market.

]]> By: U-gene http://www.odbms.org/blog/2007/09/odbms-where-did-they-go_20/comment-page-1/#comment-90 U-gene Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:22:15 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/odbmsblog/2007/09/20/odbms-where-did-they-go/#comment-90 Hi,<br /><br />I've got a pair of questions on your message.<br /><br />1) This phrase - <br />"And relational databases are still there... They changed, yes, but they are still there."<br />- sounds like you think that possibility exists that relational DB can disappear or become unnecesarry. Is it true?<br /><br />2) The one of main trends of long DBMS history is the separation between the ones and applications. How this idea can be joined with attempts to link current OO-languages designed for application creation (like Java or Csharp) and ODBMS. I mean these OO-languages has a lot of features which are useless for DBMS and, on the other hand, DBMS need for other language features (like transaction, security, data queries ets.). For example I think that possibility to desribe some enterprice in OO-way is enougth for real <b>_O_</b>DBMS language. May be special OO language should be more useful for ODBMS which allows describe the modelled enterprice as set of object and which is absolutely independent from client side aplication including their languages? Hi,

I’ve got a pair of questions on your message.

1) This phrase –
“And relational databases are still there… They changed, yes, but they are still there.”
- sounds like you think that possibility exists that relational DB can disappear or become unnecesarry. Is it true?

2) The one of main trends of long DBMS history is the separation between the ones and applications. How this idea can be joined with attempts to link current OO-languages designed for application creation (like Java or Csharp) and ODBMS. I mean these OO-languages has a lot of features which are useless for DBMS and, on the other hand, DBMS need for other language features (like transaction, security, data queries ets.). For example I think that possibility to desribe some enterprice in OO-way is enougth for real _O_DBMS language. May be special OO language should be more useful for ODBMS which allows describe the modelled enterprice as set of object and which is absolutely independent from client side aplication including their languages?

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