Comments on: Are object databases “NoSQL” technologies? http://www.odbms.org/blog/2009/11/are-object-databases-nosql-technologies/ Trends and Information on Objects and Databases, Object Persistence, Innovation Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:48:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: One size does not fit all: “document stores”, “nosql databases” , ODBMSs. | ODBMS Industry Watch http://www.odbms.org/blog/2009/11/are-object-databases-nosql-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-140 One size does not fit all: “document stores”, “nosql databases” , ODBMSs. | ODBMS Industry Watch Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:21:30 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/odbmsblog/2009/11/24/are-object-databases-nosql-technologies/#comment-140 [...] Stonebraker (MIT): “Greene`s reply is perfectly reasonable. I think the “one size does not fit all” mantra — which I [...] [...] Stonebraker (MIT): “Greene`s reply is perfectly reasonable. I think the “one size does not fit all” mantra — which I [...]

]]> By: Roberto V. Zicari http://www.odbms.org/blog/2009/11/are-object-databases-nosql-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Roberto V. Zicari Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:12:09 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/odbmsblog/2009/11/24/are-object-databases-nosql-technologies/#comment-5 Hi Andy<br />thank you for your note.<br />I know Mike Stonebraker`paper on the end of one-size-fits-all databases. <br />You can follow the various posts around this topic here: http://www.odbms.org/blog/labels/nosql%20databases.html<br /><br />Could you please send me some more technical information on VoltDB?<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Roberto Hi Andy
thank you for your note.
I know Mike Stonebraker`paper on the end of one-size-fits-all databases.
You can follow the various posts around this topic here: http://www.odbms.org/blog/labels/nosql%20databases.html

Could you please send me some more technical information on VoltDB?

Thanks,
Roberto

]]> By: Andy http://www.odbms.org/blog/2009/11/are-object-databases-nosql-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-6 Andy Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:52:10 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/odbmsblog/2009/11/24/are-object-databases-nosql-technologies/#comment-6 Hi Roberto,<br />As a former Object Design (ObjectStore) employee, I'm glad to see ODBMS interest is alive and well!<br /><br />If you go back in time a little further, you'll see that Mike Stonebraker also published a paper on the <a href="http://www.cs.brown.edu/~ugur/fits_all.pdf" rel="nofollow">end of one-size-fits-all databases</a>.<br /><br />He didn't mention ODBMS, but did mention object-relational as an alternative to "OSFA."<br /><br />Since the OSFA paper, he's launched several new DBMSs that are specialized for each of the workloads outlined in his paper. The most recent is a SQL DBMS with ACID transaction support. VoltDB (http://www.voltdb.com) is relational, not object, and has a very innovative DBMS architecture. As of January 2010, VoltDB is still in pre-release.<br /><br />I agree that the NoSQL movement should think about a new name. Renaming it could strengthen the cause by making it possible for SQL databases with specialized architectures (such as ODBMS, column DBMS, and DBMS like VoltDB) to get behind the movement.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Andy Hi Roberto,
As a former Object Design (ObjectStore) employee, I'm glad to see ODBMS interest is alive and well!

If you go back in time a little further, you'll see that Mike Stonebraker also published a paper on the end of one-size-fits-all databases.

He didn't mention ODBMS, but did mention object-relational as an alternative to "OSFA."

Since the OSFA paper, he's launched several new DBMSs that are specialized for each of the workloads outlined in his paper. The most recent is a SQL DBMS with ACID transaction support. VoltDB (http://www.voltdb.com) is relational, not object, and has a very innovative DBMS architecture. As of January 2010, VoltDB is still in pre-release.

I agree that the NoSQL movement should think about a new name. Renaming it could strengthen the cause by making it possible for SQL databases with specialized architectures (such as ODBMS, column DBMS, and DBMS like VoltDB) to get behind the movement.

Thanks,
Andy

]]> By: Scott W, Ambler http://www.odbms.org/blog/2009/11/are-object-databases-nosql-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Scott W, Ambler Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:30:08 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/odbmsblog/2009/11/24/are-object-databases-nosql-technologies/#comment-7 One size does not fit all is a critical concept which a lot of "IT professionals" seem to forget from time to time. There will never be one database technology, nor has there ever been only one, nor one way to query, nor even one SQL. One size does not fit all is a critical concept which a lot of "IT professionals" seem to forget from time to time. There will never be one database technology, nor has there ever been only one, nor one way to query, nor even one SQL.

]]> By: Prof. Dr. Stefan Edlich http://www.odbms.org/blog/2009/11/are-object-databases-nosql-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Prof. Dr. Stefan Edlich Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:41:45 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/odbmsblog/2009/11/24/are-object-databases-nosql-technologies/#comment-8 Good appraisement. It might be indeed valid to argue that object databases are some kind of a bridge between the rational world and the NoSQL world. As Robert said not sacrificing ACID by keeping full query power on massively huge data.<br /><br />By the way the community has somehow agreed that NoSQL should be better translated with "Not Only SQL".<br /><br />Regards<br />Stefan Edlich<br />(http://nosql-databases.org) Good appraisement. It might be indeed valid to argue that object databases are some kind of a bridge between the rational world and the NoSQL world. As Robert said not sacrificing ACID by keeping full query power on massively huge data.

By the way the community has somehow agreed that NoSQL should be better translated with "Not Only SQL".

Regards
Stefan Edlich
(http://nosql-databases.org)

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