Comments on: Machines of Loving Grace. Interview with John Markoff. http://www.odbms.org/blog/2016/08/machines-of-loving-grace-interview-with-john-markoff/ Trends and Information on AI, Big Data, New Data Management Technologies, Data Science and Innovation. Sat, 23 Mar 2019 03:15:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.23 By: Keith Duddy http://www.odbms.org/blog/2016/08/machines-of-loving-grace-interview-with-john-markoff/#comment-453 Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:48:12 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/blog/?p=4190#comment-453 [a repeat of a private message to Roberto to encourage you to see some Alan Curtis material – if you have not done so already]

this subject line sparked an immediate interest for me, based on my love of Alan Curtis (BBC) and his documentaries.

He did a series called “All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace” a few years back. It’s in four parts in which he draws some fascinating links between neoconservatism and the hippy culture, as well as a damning critique of “ecology” from it’s 19th century roots up until computer simulations in the 60s & 70s of “ecosystems”. Gripping polemical journalism made to the background of BBC archival footage and very interesting music. Get it from somewhere!

He has a more sinister take on the subject Machines of Loving Grace (thus interview is a little more technotopian).

I commend to you http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis
And his entire ouvre. If you have a VPN that lets you be on a UK IP Address, then I also suggest the BBC iView-only release of “Bitter Lake” – a history of Afghanistan (a promo is the last post of the blog above). This is a new style of what I call “ambient documentary”. It’s long and lyrical, and very touching/confronting in that he shows the edited out parts of the rushes of the BBC news footage of “our” Afghani war, and lots of much older stuff.

I hope you have some time to investigate Alan…

best,
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By: Roberto V. Zicari http://www.odbms.org/blog/2016/08/machines-of-loving-grace-interview-with-john-markoff/#comment-450 Fri, 19 Aug 2016 23:26:24 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/blog/?p=4190#comment-450 Hi Gregory
thank you. Interesting comment.

Best,
Roberto

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By: Gregory Piatetsky http://www.odbms.org/blog/2016/08/machines-of-loving-grace-interview-with-john-markoff/#comment-449 Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:56:32 +0000 http://www.odbms.org/blog/?p=4190#comment-449 Nice interview! Ben Shneiderman suggestion: it is essential to keep a human in the loop – may be desirable, but in my opinion is unrealistic.

Google first version of self-driving car had a steering wheel and brake but in the latest version there is no steering or brake, only a big START/STOP button, because Google found that humans are not able to be always in the loop.

If something can be partially automated, it will eventually be fully automated.

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