{"id":35,"date":"2009-04-07T23:02:00","date_gmt":"2009-04-07T23:02:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.odbms.org\/odbmsblog\/2009\/04\/07\/odbms-and-rdbms\/"},"modified":"2014-12-18T16:13:17","modified_gmt":"2014-12-18T16:13:17","slug":"for-very-large-databases-you-need-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.odbms.org\/blog\/2009\/04\/for-very-large-databases-you-need-to\/","title":{"rendered":"ODBMS and RDBMS?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have recently asked Alexander Jaehne -Application Infrastructure &amp; Integration Team Lead, at a major Swiss bank, what experience does he have in using the various options available for persistence for new projects.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;For very large databases, you need to complement an ODBMS with some relational database. We prefer to have both.. &#8221; replied Jaehne.<\/p>\n<p>You can read the interview with Jaehne: <strong>User Report 31\/09 <\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, this is not true in general.<\/p>\n<p>For example, Richard Ahrens, Director at Merrill Lynch explains : &#8220;Our order and quote management system combines an embedded object-based continuous event processor with an embedded object database. This allows us to rapidly add new derivative products to our environment and keeps developers focused on writing code that adds direct business value. With our design, we have strived to eliminate &#8220;nonproductive&#8221; development: keeping objects in sync with a relational data model adds no value to our business, so we rely on object database technology to make that problem go away.<br \/>\nWe have found this approach not only enables us to deliver incremental functionality faster, but also reduces our testing burden since there are fewer moving parts for us to maintain ourselves. &#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The complete set of <strong>User Reports <\/strong>includes:<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 1\/08: Gerd Klevesaat at Siemens<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Automation<br \/>\nUser: Gerd Klevesaat &#8211; Software architect &#8211; Siemens, Germany<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 2\/08: Pieter van Zyl at CSIR<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Academia<br \/>\nUser: Pieter van Zyl &#8211; Researcher &#8211; CSIR, South Africa<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 3\/08: Philippe Roose at Liuppa<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Academia<br \/>\nUser: Philippe Roose &#8211; Ass. Professor \/ Researcher &#8211; LIUPPA, France<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 4\/08: William Westlake at SAIC<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Medical<br \/>\nUser: William Westlake &#8211; Principal Systems Engineer &#8211; SAIC, USA<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 5\/08: Stefan Edlich at TFH Berlin<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Academia<br \/>\nUser: Stefan Edlich &#8211; Professor &#8211; TFH Berlin, Germany<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 6\/08: Udayan Banerjee at NIIT<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Various<br \/>\nUser: Udayan Banerjee &#8211; CTO &#8211; NIIT, India<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 7\/08: Nishio Shuichi at ATR<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Robotics<br \/>\nUser: Nishio Shuichi &#8211; Senior Researcher &#8211; ATR Labs, Japan<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 8\/08: John Davies at Iona<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Finance<br \/>\nUser: John Davies &#8211; Technical Director &#8211; Iona, USA<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 9\/08: Scott Ambler at IBM<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Various<br \/>\nUser: Scott Ambler &#8211; Practice Leader &#8211; IBM Rational, Canada<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 10\/08: Mike Card at Syracuse<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Defense<br \/>\nUser: Mike Card &#8211; Researcher &#8211; Syracuse, USA<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 11\/08: Rich Ahrens at Merrill Lynch<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Finance<br \/>\nUser: Richard Ahrens &#8211; Director &#8211; Merrill Lynch, USA<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 12\/08: Ajay Deshpande at Persistent<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Various<br \/>\nUser: Ajay Deshpande &#8211; Senior Architect &#8211; Persistent, India<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 13\/08: Horst Braeuner at City of Schwaebisch Hall<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Public &#8211; Government<br \/>\nUser: Horst Braeuner &#8211; CTO, CIO &#8211; City of Schwaebisch Hall, Germany<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 14\/08: Tore Risch at University of Uppsala<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Academia<br \/>\nUser: Tore Risch &#8211; Professor &#8211; University of Uppsala, Sweden<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 15\/08: Michael Blaha at OMT<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Consulting<br \/>\nUser: Michael Blaha &#8211; Principal &#8211; OMT Associates, USA<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 16\/08: Stefan Keller at HSR Rapperswil<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Academia<br \/>\nUser: Stefan Keller &#8211; Professor &#8211; HSR Rapperswil, USA<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 17\/08: Mohammed Zaki at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Academia<br \/>\nUser: Mohammed Zaki &#8211; Associate Professor &#8211; Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, USA<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 18\/08: Peter Train at Standard Bank<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Finance<br \/>\nUser: Peter Train &#8211; Architect &#8211; Standard Bank, South Africa<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 19\/08: Biren Gandhi at IBM<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Consulting<br \/>\nUser: Biren Gandhi &#8211; Architect &#8211; IBM, Germany<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 20\/08: Sven Pecher at IBM<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Consulting<br \/>\nUser: Sven Pecher &#8211; Senior Consultant &#8211; IBM, Germany<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 21\/08: Frank Stuch at IBM<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Consulting<br \/>\nUser: Sven Pecher &#8211; Managing Consultant &#8211; IBM, Germany<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 22\/08: Hiroshi Miyazaki at Fujitsu<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Various<br \/>\nUser: Hiroshi Miyazaki &#8211; Methodology &#8211; Fujitsu, Japan<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 23\/08: Robert Huber at 7r<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Various<br \/>\nUser: Robert Huber &#8211; Managing Director &#8211; 7r, Switzerland<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 24\/08: Thomas Amberg at Oberon<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Various<br \/>\nUser: Thomas Amberg &#8211; Software Engineer, Oberon, Switzerland<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 25\/08: Martin F. Kraft<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Logistics<br \/>\nUser: Martin F. Kraft &#8211; Application Architect, Shipping Company (not disclosed), USA<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 26\/08: Serena Pizzi at Banca Fideuram<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Finance<br \/>\nUser: Serena Pizzi &#8211; Responsible Application Management Back End, Banca Fideuram SpA, Italy<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 27\/08: Dan Schutzer at FSTC<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Financial Services<br \/>\nUser: Dan Schutzer &#8211; Director, FSTC, USA<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 28\/08: Peter Fallon at Castle Software Australia<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Software development and consulting<br \/>\nUser: Peter Fallon &#8211; Director , Castle Software Australia, Australia<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 29\/08: Benny Schaich-Lebek at SAP<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; ERP<br \/>\nUser: Benny Schaich-Lebek &#8211; Product Management, SAP, Germany<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 30\/08: Stephan Kiemle at German Aerospace Center<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Aereospace<br \/>\nUser: Stephan Kiemle &#8211; Chief software engineer, German Aerospace Center DLR, Germany<\/p>\n<p><strong>User Report 31\/09: Alexander Jaehne at Major Swiss Bank<\/strong><br \/>\nSegment: Industry &#8211; Finance<br \/>\nUser: Alexander Jaehne -Application Infrastructure &amp; Integration Team Lead, Switzerland.<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have recently asked Alexander Jaehne -Application Infrastructure &amp; Integration Team Lead, at a major Swiss bank, what experience does he have in using the various options available for persistence for new projects. &#8220;For very large databases, you need to complement an ODBMS with some relational database. 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